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Obama's radical Friends, communists, Marxists,and his racist mentors

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DiscoverTheNetworks.org provides a comprehensive look into "Barack's World": his Radical and Socialist Influences; Political Allies and Advisors; Religious Affiliations; Organizational Affiliations; Academic Affiliations; Foundations; Money Scandals; Family.

"This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines Barack Obama's connections to a number of key individuals and organizations. In some cases, these affiliates are notable for the leftist views and objectives they share with Obama. In other cases, they are notable for their collaboration with Obama in controversial or unethical activities. In all cases, they offer a window into Barack Obama's values and priorities.

Taken as a whole, they verify Thomas Sowell's observation that Obama has "spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America."

A few notable names and bits from the site; other people, organizations, affiliations, etc., and more detailed accounts can be read there:

Ali Abunimah - Ali Abunimah is a Palestinian American and board member of the Chicago-based Arab American Action Network (AAAN).

In 2001 and 2002, the Woods Fund of Chicago, whose board of directors included Barack Obama, made grants totaling $75,000 to Abunimah's AAAN.

"He was very supportive of U.S. pressure on Israel." "Barack Obama used to be very comfortable speaking up for and being associated with Palestinian rights and opposing the Israeli occupation."

In March 2007 Abunimah alleged, with displeasure, that Obama had become more sympathetic to Israel in recent years. Said Abunimah: "If disappointing, given his historically close relations to Palestinian-Americans, Obama's about-face is not surprising. He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power."

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Pfleger is a great admirer of Louis Farrakhan. Pfleger has had a longstanding friendly relationship (since the late 1980s) with Barack Obama and has played a significant role as a spiritual advisor for the latter. Between 1995 and 2001, Pfleger contributed a total of $1,500 to Obama's various political campaigns — including a $200 donation in April 2001, approximately three months after Obama (who was then an Illinois State Senator) had announced $225,000 in grants to St. Sabina programs. After Obama's 2004 election to the U.S. Senate, he would earmark an additional $100,000 in federal tax money for Pfleger's work.

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:29 AM EDT
kpr37

Taken as a whole, they verify Thomas Sowell's observation that Obama has "spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America."

  • 11 votes
#1.1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:07 AM EDT
metonitoo

Weynes.... poluted Politico, now brings the "smear-to-fear" campaign here... sad the 'net' keeps letting the underground sleeze of less than human love post anywhere...
it is always a guilty by association argument...nothing the man has said or done... but- this same group never finds anything in the closet of fellow racists- like those who vote against bills for fatherless children - these ill-educated writers of such smear think white girls (although the numbers are more) don't need 'foodstamps' 'WIC' 'Head Start'...

Sad, they really want you to believe them... but... America has grown a smidgen, and now you all read "Both Sides" - Thank God!

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:51 AM EDT
Waynester

metonito
I don't know what you're talking about, and I doubt any one else does either. Who is Weynes?

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:05 AM EDT
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kpr37

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/obama-and-pro-palestinian-supporter-rashid-khalidi/
link

"Pipes should have quite a bit to say about Mr. Khalidi and Barack Obama's friendship," Moran commented.

RBO has posted on the Khalidi-Obama connection several times

On February 11, 2008, in RW/RBO's first article on unrepentant domestic terrorist and Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers, and his WUO mate, Bernardine Dohrn, we wrote:

Another event occurred in February 2005 that included Ayers, Dohrn, and Obama, a fairwell dinner for Arab American Action Network (AAAN) founder Rashid Khalidi (emphasis added):

Rashid Khalidi, a Columbia professor whose recent book argues that Yasser Arafat was right to reject the best peace deal he had ever been offered, opening the way to four years of bloodshed, presented a tendentious argument for a one-state solution that strained to stay within the bounds of reasoned discourse. [...]

Khalidi's wife, Mona Khalidi (left), who also served in Beirut as chief editor of the English section of the WAFA press agency, was hired as dean of foreign students at Columbia's SIPA, working under Dean Anderson. In Chicago, the Khalidis founded the Arab American Action Network, and Mona Khalidi served as its president. A big farewell dinner was held in their honor by AAAN with a commemorative book filled with testimonials from their friends and political allies. These included the left wing anti-war group Not In My Name, the Electronic Intifada, and the ex-Weatherman domestic terrorists Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers. (There were also testimonials from then-state Senator Barack Obama and the mayor of Chicago.)

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Sat Oct 4, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
kpr37

link to Daniel Pipes on fox news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmkgHGQSIV4&feature=user

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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Mystic Chick

He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power.

Don't they all do that?  :-P

In my humble opinion Politicians and Realtors occupy the lowest level of Hell.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:14 AM EDT
janice22

I think some candidates actually show some character and their positions are based on their own convictions. For Obama he's been willing to sacrifice numerous long term relationships for the sake of his candidacy.

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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Waynester

Thanks kpr, clipped to CCF and rightwingers.

  • 10 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:40 AM EDT
MsHooterville

Oh MY! How AWFUL! I was for Obama, now I'm voting for McCain!

All this BS only preaches to the people who were NEVER going to vote for Obama.

Save it for Sean Hannity.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:07 AM EDT
Waynester

It may change a few minds of those on the fence. It doesn't matter that it won't affect the true believers. That would take someone like Ted Patrick.

  • 5 votes
#4.1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:40 AM EDT
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EllieP

To quote one of the great UNNAMEABLES on NV (Glenn Beck), "My mother always said, show me your friends and I'll show you your future."

I don't want to befriend these radicals' friend. I really don't want to give them all the keys to our nation.

  • 12 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:32 AM EDT
iluvmyblog

"My mother always said, show me your friends and I'll show you your future."

That is so true. I love Glenn he is honest and hilarious...

Good morning you sick twisted freak

lol he's so funny.

  • 9 votes
#5.1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:50 AM EDT
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EllieP

AMR, you are too kind...(especially since I was just quoting someone else's mom!!).. Thx.

  • 5 votes
#5.3 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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iluvmyblog

Great article kpr37. Some of this is new to me. I had no idea that Obama's top foreign policy adviser Greg Craig has had a

history of defending corrupt foreign leaders and murderers.

It doesn't surprise me one bit, it just makes me sick to my stomach that so many people are ignoring these types of things.

  • 9 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:58 AM EDT
iluvmyblog

Dorothy Tillman - From 1984 to 2006, Democrat Dorothy Tillman was an alderman (City Council member) in Chicago's largely black Third Ward. Well known for her revealed record of municipal corruption, her uncompromising views on race, and her professed anti-Americanism, she is a longtime friend of Barack Obama.

What the hell... So Wright isn't the only friend of Obama's that is anti-American ... who would have thought.

Louis Farrakhan - Nation of Islam (NOI) leader Louis Farrakhan has a long, well-documented history of venom-laced references to the "white devils" and Jewish "bloodsuckers" who purportedly decimate America's black community from coast to coast.

Makes sense as to why Obama also attended a church that preached hatred against whites. And it makes sense as to why he is opposed to helping Israel.

"Barack Obama used to be very comfortable speaking up for and being associated with Palestinian rights and opposing the Israeli occupation."

Obama has associated his self with one too many radicals to try and claim he's nothing like them. Anyone who believes he's a good person that just happens to know many bad people is really putting on the blinders.

  • 9 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
Juno Hera

It is discouraging to me that there are people that are comfortable with a socialist agenda being pushed.

I truly hope those in the dem camp, who are not socialists will learn this, and vote against BO.

Thanks Kpr.

  • 11 votes
#8 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
Christian Areas

It is discouraging to me that there are people that are comfortable with a socialist agenda being pushed.

This whole socialist thing is a myth. There is no evidence Senator Obama is pushing for socialist policies. Even his healthcare plan is middle of the road. In fact, his plan is to the right of Senator Clinton's plan.

Do you guys really think you're going to win with such nonsense? McCain doesn't. That's why he went for the whole "narrative" bull@!$%#. Too bad the economy took a nosedive, and forced the candidates to focus on issues.

  • 1 vote
#8.1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
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Juno Hera

CA:

If you are a BO supporter, I'm not surprised you don't see what BO wants to push as anything other than what you state.  

The fact that the US Socialists and Communists USA support this candidate should be enough to give Americans pause.  Especially those who want to keep the American structure built on the American foundation.  

BO's ideology is utopian.  What ism he would pick to create this utopian can only be guessed at.  But whichever one chooses, historically it starts with "socialistic" tendencies, government taking from one to give to another, based on 'fairness' and 'the greater good.'

   

  • 7 votes
#8.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:15 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Guys, pile on if you like.

That's the problem with people like you ChristianAreas...You have no ideal & don't care who it is that you are supporting. Too busy implying that Anti-Obama types are not above racist suspicion.

That's funny. I actually do care, and have a good idea of what's going on. I just happen to disagree with you and your buddies. Guess that makes me ignorant. And please note where I tried to peg anyone here as a racist? I won't hold my breath.

If you are a BO supporter, I'm not surprised you don't see what BO wants to push as anything other than what you state.

That's right, because I'm an "Obamaniac" and I look to Obama as my "Messiah." No way I've been looking at the issues, and have made an intelligent and informed choice. Nah, that couldn't be it.

The fact that the US Socialists and Communists USA support this candidate should be enough to give Americans pause. Especially those who want to keep the American structure built on the American foundation.

OH MY! The far-left supports the Democrat. I'm astonished. You really want to play this game? I'm sure there are plenty of White Supremacists and radical rightwingers who support McCain. Hagee comes to mind, and there are plenty of others.

BO's ideology is utopian. What ism he would pick to create this utopian can only be guessed at. But whichever one chooses, historically it starts with "socialistic" tendencies, government taking from one to give to another, based on 'fairness' and 'the greater good.'

If that's the best you can do, I'm sorry to say, but I am unimpressed. This, along with the whole "tax-and-spend-liberal" line is as played out as the GOP. And in light of the fact that the deficit has grown to TREMENDOUS size under your glorious REPUBLICAN President -- with the help of the REPUBLICAN rubber stamp -- I think you and your buddies should focus on getting your house in order before you attempt to even step outside and cast a stone.

  • 1 vote
#8.5 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
Juno Hera

If that's the best you can do, I'm sorry to say, but I am unimpressed.

Yes, I know, and knew before I took the time to respond.  

Point of fact:  you challenged the assertion that BO wants to push socialist policy.  I simply pointed out that yes, indeed, he has support from those very people.  

And getting our house in order is why McCain has weathered the storm this cycle.  

  • 8 votes
#8.6 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:57 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Yes, I know, and knew before I took the time to respond.

Precisely my sentiments. That's exactly why I hesitated to respond at all in this seed. But here it is. In the end, I'm just preaching to the devil's choir, I guess.

Point of fact: you challenged the assertion that BO wants to push socialist policy. I simply pointed out that yes, indeed, he has support from those very people.

So, if I follow your logic, if someone supports me, I now support their way of thinking. I guess I should start supporting McCain. Maybe he'll come to his senses and get back to some of his original Maverick stances (on taxes, for instance). Did you really think that thought through?

And getting our house in order is why McCain has weathered the storm this cycle.

Excuse me while I suspend all belief. Actually, no. McCain has made it this far because he's not viewed as a typical Republican. What a lot of people don't know (yet) is that he's tethered himself to the same old Bush policies he so adamantly stood against only a number of years ago.

  • 1 vote
#8.7 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
Juno Hera

If you take the time to look into what these organizations want to push, and you look at what BO wants to push, you will see that they are mostly aligned.  Of course the "far left" socialists/communists are going to support the "far left" candidate.  And in his speeches he has made the case for what they support.

McCain has made it this far because he's not viewed as a typical Republican.

Yes, that is where I was coming from.  The thought being that he will get back to basics.  Which is why conservatives were supportive, if reluctantly.  I disagree that McCain is another Bush.  I don't dismiss that they have some similar stances, they are both republicans after all.  

I don't follow your second paragraph.  

Also, I'd appreciate if you would refrain from "devil's choir" verbiage.  I am and have been civil, and would like this to remain so.

  • 7 votes
#8.8 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Of course the "far left" socialists/communists are going to support the "far left" candidate.

The notion that Obama is "far-left" is unsupported by the facts. And if you don't like the "devil's choir" verbiage, tough. It's simply a spin on the "preaching to the choir" phrase. Didn't think it would hurt your feelings.

  • 1 vote
#8.9 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
Juno Hera

See, and I was just hoping to keep it all nice and everything.  

BO is far-left, supported by all the facts.  Surely you don't count his promenade to the center as proof.  Or do you?  Never-mind, it really doesn't matter. 

Since you've decided not to have an iota of respect, then I guess our time has come to an end.

Farewell.

  • 5 votes
#8.10 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:39 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Back up your contention with facts, or don't waste my time with your nonsense. And please spare me by not citing The National Review, a publication that counts such things Ethics Reforms as proof of Liberalism.

Since you've decided not to have an iota of respect, then I guess our time has come to an end.

Please step off the cross. And if you're feelings are hurt by such minuscule things, maybe debating these issues is not for you. But let me say this. Respect is earned, and you have not earned it with your blatant misrepresentations.

  • 1 vote
#8.11 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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EllieP

Christian...Obama's "most liberal senator" record is outlined here and elsewhere.  Google it.

  • 6 votes
#8.13 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Obama's "most liberal senator" record is outlined here and elsewhere. Google it.

What part of "please spare me by not citing The National Review, a publication that counts such things Ethics Reforms as proof of Liberalism" don't you understand? The methodology of the review has been brought into question. As you said -- GOOGLE IT.

"Barack Obama is 'aloof,' 'decidedly liberal' says British ambassador to US"

This is from the Socialist Brits

Because he's from Europe, he's a liberal? You do know there are Conservatives in Europe, right? I mean, you might as well quote John Bolton. In any case, got any more broad generalizations? You seem to be full of them.

  • 1 vote
#8.14 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:28 AM EDT
Christian Areas

Just a correction. I meant to state The National Journal, not the The National Review. Point is the same, however.

And EP, you stated:

.Obama's "most liberal senator" record is outlined here and elsewhere

Please provide proof of this "elsewhere." CNN looked at this, and The National Journal was the only source they found. I've spotted others, but none have said he is "the most liberal."

  • 1 vote
#8.15 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:38 AM EDT
Christian Areas

For your own edification.

Note that McCain is more to the right, than Obama is to the left. If you're going to call Obama "far-left" then I guess you have to call McCain "far-right."

The methodology used is from the very well respected journal, Political Analysis. Their site states:

Political Analysis is ranked #1 of 93 journals in Political Science according to the 2007 ISI Journal Citation Reports.

  • 1 vote
#8.16 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:50 AM EDT
EllieP

Christian,

The National Journal is described as 'leading source of nonpartisan reporting on the current political environment and emerging policy trends'.  But, since you don't accept that, there's the following:

Check Obama's record by topic from here.  He votes with his party or doesn't vote.

From Boston Globe...97% of Obama's votes are with Democrat party

British Ambassador described him thus:

He describes Mr Obama's "decidedly liberal" voting record in the Senate where "the main impression is of someone who was finding his feet, and then got diverted by his presidential ambitions".

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Barack_Obama.htm -- voting record by issue

Here's another one -- Obama and Biden, liberal team

Most liberals aren't insulted by the term, so just rather than deny it, own it.

  • 6 votes
#8.17 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
Christian Areas

The National Journal's methodology has been questioned. As I pointed out, they count such things as Ethics Reform as evidence of Liberalism. Check out the link I offered. It gives a much better assessment.

And thank you very much, I know about Obama's record, and have no problem with it. Yes, you can argue he is "decidedly liberal," but that's not a bad thing. People like Reagan and McCain, were/are decidedly Conservative. Would you argue with that? But to claim Obama is "far-left," or that he's "the most liberal Senator" is just utter nonsense, aimed at scaring voters.

Incidentally, The National Journal found that John Kerry was "the most liberal Senator" when he ran. It's no accident. Their methodology is aimed at getting such results. They're biased.

P.S. You've yet to back up the contention that Obama "is the most liberal Senator." All you and your sorts have is The National Review rating. That was my challenge to you, not to prove that Obama is Liberal/Progressive, or that he's a Democrat. Any idiot knows these things are true.

  • 1 vote
#8.18 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
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backroads

kpr, the Followers could care less, and that says something about them as well.

  • 12 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:07 AM EDT
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Kori

Nation Of Islam (Farrakhan) supports Obama. Nation Of Islam is also the group that killed Malcolm X. Malcolm walked away from NOI after realizing what a sham the organization was and how corrupt and immoral the leaders were. The organization's philosophy was rooted in racial hatred and strife. After being completely transformed when he made his first pilgrimage to Mecca, Malcolm X chose to follow a peaceful Islam. Three thugs from NOI shot Malcolm while he was giving a speech. Today I don't believe that the Nation Of Islam has improved all that much from their radical, hate mongering years that ended with Malcom X's death.

Also remember the Black Panthers support Obama but their name was removed from Obama's support list when he first started running for President and his support network was starting to be publicized. People who remember the days of the radical Black Panthers didn't like that too much. Back to Nation Of Islam:

Tensions increased between Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam. As early as February 1964, a member of Temple Number Seven had been given orders by the Nation of Islam to wire explosives to Malcolm X's car.

The Nation of Islam and its leaders began making threats against Malcolm X both in private and in public. On March 23, 1964, Elijah Muhammad told Boston minister Louis X (later known as Louis Farrakhan) that hypocrites like Malcolm should have "their heads cut off".[110] The April 10 edition of Muhammad Speaks featured a cartoon in which his severed head was shown bouncing.

On July 9, John Ali, a top aide to Muhammad, answered a question about Malcolm X by saying that "anyone who opposes the Honorable Elijah Muhammad puts their life in jeopardy"

There's much more, just go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X

Oh heck, while I'm at it, here's another link titled: ACORN, Obama and the Mortgage Mess ...

www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/acorn_obama_and_the_mortgage_m.html

(I need to learn better how to link)

  • 7 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:52 AM EDT
Christian Areas

Obama's radical Friends, communists, Maxists,and his racist mentors

What the hell is a Maxist? Good to see some quality *cough* writing. How can I start a blog on wordpress? *cough*cough* The qualifications must be incredibly high! *cough*cough*CHOKE*

  • 2 votes
#11 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

Christian Areas,
LMAO! That's all you can say! Omg... backroads was right...

kpr, the Followers could care less, and that says something about them as well.

Yup, says a lot about them.... You can't handle the truth.

  • 7 votes
#11.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
Christian Areas

The truth?  Don't make me laugh.  You rightwingers are desparate.

  • 1 vote
#11.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:51 PM EDT
Kori

C Areas:     

You rightwingers are desparate.

Ummm, I noticed you were smacking on KPR for a misspelled word in the title so maybe turn about is fair play.  Perhaps you meant desperate or disparate in your reference to rightwingers?  Not sure.   On occasion it's good to remember that while pointing a finger at someone else, there are three fingers on the same hand pointing right back at you.

  • 7 votes
#11.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Are you comparing a mistake in a title to one in a comment?  Just checking.  And I assume the author -- not the seeder -- made the original mistake.

  • 1 vote
#11.4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
Waynester

Bad assumption.

If you check you will see it was the seeder that committed the typo.

  • 6 votes
#11.5 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
Christian Areas

And your assumption is good? My guess is the brilliant author fixed his erratum after the seed. But hey, who care? I just thought it was funny. But by all means, keep on eating this @!$%# up. Just remember to floss.

  • 1 vote
#11.6 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

The truth?  Don't make me laugh.  You rightwingers are desparate

I bet you didn't even read the article. Like I said it's OK if you want to be ignorant and not educate yourself with facts and instead go off what all the other Obamainiacs tell you to believe.

  • 6 votes
#11.7 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Like I said it's OK if you want to be ignorant and not educate yourself with facts and instead go off what all the other Obamainiacs tell you to believe.

That's incredibly clever. Perhaps, now, you can start your Wordpress blog! And forgive me, but I did not realize "ignorant" was synonymous with "repetitive." Anything else you can teach me? I'd love to be a rightwing ideologue like you.

  • 1 vote
#11.8 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:49 AM EDT
kpr37

Christian Areas do you like the article now that I put in the "R" I missed at 6:30 in the morning before I went to work

  • 6 votes
#11.9 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:11 AM EDT
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iluvmyblog

Christian Areas,

That's incredibly clever. Perhaps, now, you can start your Wordpress blog! And forgive me, but I did not realize "ignorant" was synonymous with "repetitive." Anything else you can teach me? I'd love to be a rightwing ideologue like you.

I think that you think you're funny, but your definitely not. Here's the definition since seemed to be confused...

ignorant

1 a: destitute of knowledge or education ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence
2: unaware , uninformed

Just because you support Obama doesn't mean that he's infallible. It's true that these bigot people are his long time friends and mentors, you just won't accept it. Seems to me that many of you liberals have the same problem accepting the truth, you're not alone, sadly.

  • 5 votes
#11.11 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
Christian Areas

Just because you support Obama doesn't mean that he's infallible.

I said this when? Okay, let me humor you ideologues for a second.

Nation of Islam (NOI) leader Louis Farrakhan has a long, well-documented history of venom-laced references to the "white devils" and Jewish "bloodsuckers" who purportedly decimate America's black community from coast to coast.
In 1995 Barack Obama — along with such notables as Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright — helped organize the Farrakhan's famous Million Man March in Washington, DC. Farrakhan is a longtime friend of Jeremiah Wright. Farrakhan is also a longtime friend and ideological comrade of Michael Pfleger, who serves as pastor of Chicago's Saint Sabina Catholic Church and has been described by Barack Obama as a spriritual advisor.

They failed to mention Barack Obama denounced Farrakhan. They also never note where it is Farrakhan and Obama met. Maybe in a chat room? Is that where they became, quote, "friends"? And what exactly is so wrong with the Million Man March? From what I've read, the event was positive for African-Americans.

And the one blaming Obama for the mortgage crisis is great. Yeah, let's fault poor blacks, and not the predatory lenders, or the countless other parties involved. No, it's all because lenders were "FORCED" to lend to certain people. Never mind that the case was settled out of court. I guess the plaintiffs held a gun to their heads and said, "Loan the money or else." Yeah, that makes sense. And let's not even consider the possibility that there was some actual discrimination involved. No, that never happens. *rollseyes*

Maybe some of you rightwingers should take your own advice and really educate yourselves. Try a course in Critical Thinking.

Seriously, I can play this game all day long, but as I've indicated -- BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

  • 2 votes
#11.12 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

Christian Areas,

They failed to mention Barack Obama denounced Farrakhan.

Hm wonder why.... guess it didn't mean much because he still helped him organize with the Million Man March.

They also never note where it is Farrakhan and Obama met. Maybe in a chat room?

Your point is..? It doesn't really matter where they met, the point is he's associating with yet again another radical. They more than likely met through Rev. Wright

Farrakhan is a longtime friend of Jeremiah Wright.

Now you ask...

And what exactly is so wrong with the Million Man March? From what I've read, the event was positive for African-Americans.

There's nothing wrong with the Million Man March, what's wrong is the radicals that are part of it...Al Sharpton , Jeremiah Wright , & Michael Louis Pfleger. All radicals.

And the one blaming Obama for the mortgage crisis is great.

Didn't come across that one.

Yeah, let's fault poor blacks, and not the predatory lenders, or the countless other parties involved

Whaaaat...????

Maybe some of you rightwingers should take your own advice and really educate yourselves. Try a course in Critical Thinking.

haha OK,maybe you are a little funny ;)

  • 5 votes
#11.13 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

the New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials — most often Democrats. The New Party's short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party

Looks like they have succeeded... the angry left.

1995 Barack Obama sought the New Party's endorsement for his 1996 state senate run. He was successful in obtaining that endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

No way..... who would have thought??? hahaha

  • 5 votes
#11.14 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
Christian Areas

ILMB, you make a poor case regarding Farrakhan association, as does the author. There is actually no proof, as far as I can tell, that Obama and Farrakhan EVER met. If I were to use the same degrees of association, I could just easily tie Bush to Hitler, seeing as his grandfather did business with the Nazis. Again, we can play this game all day long. But at the end of the day, it doesn't amount to much.

  • 1 vote
#11.15 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

Christian Areas,
Round and round we go again. Ah...just give it time, the truth always comes out. You'll see sooner or later. He's not the guy you think he is. You can keep making excuses for him but it won't change anything.

  • 6 votes
#11.16 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
AMR 1960Deleted
Christian Areas

Actually iluvmyblog has shown a great deal of patience, his postings were detailed and a valiant effort at getting around your BDS.

That's incredibly funny. And you guys think I'm the one who's brainwashed.

That's S.O.C.I.A.L.I.S.T. I don't care if it has Rush Limbaugh's signature on it ChristainAreas it's Socialist inspired Income Redistribution. Know what you are embracing.

According to AIM? Yeah, a truly reputable source. Seriously, you're as brainwashed as you claim I am. Personally, I try and stay away from these hyper-partisan sites. Obviously, you and your ilk swear by them.

  • 1 vote
#11.18 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

Actually iluvmyblog has shown a great deal of patience,

Thank you AMR 1960 ;)
AMR 1960,

Know what you are embracing.

Sadly, he chooses not to know.
Christian Areas,

Personally, I try and stay away from these hyper-partisan sites

No, actually you try to shield yourself from anything that's different from you.

  • 6 votes
#11.19 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 9:42 AM EDT
Christian Areas

Sadly, he chooses not to know.

What? I choose not to believe what you believe, thus I choose "not to know." I mean, this is the ultimate bull@!$%#.

No, actually you try to shield yourself from anything that's different from you.

That's a load of crap. I've read Liberal Fascism, tune into Fox and read a lot of op-eds and such by Conservatives -- some of which I can agree with -- and so forth. I'm also not registered with any party, never have been, no, not in my entire life. So don't give me this BS about how I "shield" myself from other ways of thinking. It insults my intelligence, and makes you look like an idiot.

  • 1 vote
#11.20 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

Christian Areas,

Please, stay in your ignorance, it's obviously  bliss for you, because when you come out of it you are very hostile. Hence why I said, you shield yourself from anything that's different from you.

The article states facts. It's a fact that Obama has associated with theses radicals.  They are communist, Marxist,and racist friends of his, deal with it.

It insults my intelligence,

haha! Uh... your ignorance is what  insults your "intelligence".

  • 5 votes
#11.21 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:42 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Your words would be better spoken in front of the mirror. Very sad for you. Have a nice day.

  • 1 vote
#11.22 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
iluvmyblog

Your words would be better spoken in front of the mirror. Very sad for you.

Nah, but nice try though.

Have a nice day.

Awe, thanks you too ;)

  • 4 votes
#11.23 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
AMR 1960Deleted
iluvmyblog

Fair warning Ms. ILMB I'm stealing that line it's a keeper!

lol By all means AMR 1960 go for it! ;)

  • 3 votes
#11.25 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
Christian Areas

I think the word you're looking for is informed. Not coming to a certain conclusion is not called ignorance, it's called a difference in opinion. And I hate to burst your bubbles, but an opinion is not the same thing as a fact. As I've said, I've looked at practically all these allegations, and they lead to nothing incredibly damning. I even challenged a few of the contentions, and none of you had much to say in defense. The best you guys could come up with is, "he's a friend of a friend." Even the stuff on Ayres is weak. The best I've heard is that Ayres pushed for reforms in schools that Obama supported as well, things that were incredibly innocuous. I know you guys feel confident, voting each others comments up and all, and piling on, but at the end of the day, you're all left grasping.

  • 1 vote
#11.26 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
Reply
Waynester

Devastating and well put together article. Thanks

  • 7 votes
Reply#12 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
Waynester

And your assumption is good? My guess is the brilliant author fixed his erratum after the seed

I made no assumption. I just compared the headline to the article. Presumably the blog author spell checks his copy. (kpr, not so much) There is one thing missing from the Obamamaniac comments that I've seen so far. Any refutation of the facts in the piece. Just attacks on the author and seeder. Funny, that.

  • 7 votes
Reply#13 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
Christian Areas

There is one thing missing from the [Obama supporter] comments that I've seen so far. Any refutation of the facts in the piece[?]

Been there, done that. How about some original criticisms? What's really funny is that it's so easy to come up with original criticisms when it comes to McCain, Palin, Bush and the entire GOP. LOL!

  • 1 vote
#13.1 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:54 AM EDT
Waynester

It's always about changing the subject, isn't it? The article is not about McCain, Palin or Bush. But thanks for the confirmation.

  • 7 votes
#13.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:32 AM EDT
Christian Areas

Again, where are your original criticisms of Obama? If he's as fallible as your rightwing colleague has indicated, you'd have something, no? Heck, I could help you out if you're having trouble.

  • 1 vote
#13.3 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:27 PM EDT
AMR 1960Deleted
Waynester

Again, where are your original criticisms of Obama?

That is an asinine question if ever I heard one. The criticisms and concerns that have been raised haven't been answered to anyone's satisfaction. Originality is irrelevant.

  • 6 votes
#13.5 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 1:50 PM EDT
Christian Areas

What's asinine is your level of critical thinking. It doesn't take much time to debunk the nonsense. I, and others, have done it ad nauseam -- never to the satisfaction of the rightwing ideologues. You and your "friends" take such writings as the holy truth. To state otherwise is blasphemous, and a sign of "ignorance." Spare me.

  • 1 vote
#13.6 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:15 PM EDT
Christian Areas

Just look at Barack Obama's Global Tax Proposal S. 2433, the "Global Poverty Act"

Oh, how dastardly! Money to fight poverty, hunger, disease, etc. And your source is just impeccable. No bias there. *cough* But just for kicks, let me offer another source:

A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.


Note the list of 30 co-sponsors. Dear GOD, what a bunch of socialist, that Richard Lugar especially. *rollseyes*

  • 1 vote
#13.7 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
AMR 1960Deleted
Christian Areas

I love it how you and your pals try and dismiss Obama supporters with idiotic names like "Obamania" and the like. I guess it goes hand and hand with anti-intellectualism.

  • 1 vote
#13.9 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
Waynester

So we're supposed to just ignore the deification by the media and others, the comments by politicians that he has been sent by God, the halo effect photos, etc. and never ever refer to Him in any thing but reverential terms? Please.
I don't take any thing as Holy truth. There are a lot of questions being asked by some smart and reputable people (Stanley Kurtz and David Feddoso come to mind) and no ones getting any thing but obfuscation, and smear the messenger responses from folks like yourself.

  • 5 votes
#13.10 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
Christian Areas

So we're supposed to just ignore the deification by the media and others, the comments by politicians that he has been sent by God, the halo effect photos, etc. and never ever refer to Him in any thing but reverential terms? Please.

First, your characterization is ridiculous. Second, I do not view him in that light, so don't throw those bull@!$%# terms my way.

no ones getting any thing but obfuscation, and smear the messenger responses from folks like yourself.

That's simply not the case. I chose a few examples from the author's... whatever, and took issue based on substance. So please, step off the cross.

  • 1 vote
#13.11 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
Reply
Common Sense Mike

If you guys think this is bad, you should see what they are doing here in Ohio. I am watching this is total disbelief! I wrote an article on the subject this morning:

http://faminchin.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/02/1946552-voter-fraud-in-ohio-you-decide

  • 4 votes
Reply#14 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
Chris-546481

COLOMBO BEING COLOMBO!!
Ah.... Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama,
Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um..... I know you're busy and are very important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . ah... I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!
Oh, sorry sir. I didn't mean to get off track. So, if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something, you know...spend some time with her. Ever been to Coney Island ? No, I didn't think so. .
Well, listen, anyways, I can't seem to get some information needed to wrap this up. These things seem to either be 'locked' or 'not available'. I'm sure it's just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are. I....I.... have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I'll just read the list to you.
Could you please help me find these things, sir?
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'
Oh hey . . listen! I know you're busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean.... tell you what. I'll come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? So I will just let myself out...nice place, eh? I'll be back tomorrow. And the day after. .What? Who's interested in these things, Mr. Obama? excuse me, Senator...you are a Senator, right? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, SIR..... have a wonderful day, sir

  • 6 votes
Reply#15 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
Chris-546481

THOSE WHO DOUBT OBAMA'S TIES TO RADICALS, MARXISTS AND HIS BELIEFS, NEED TO AND MUST SEE THIS VIDEO:

  • 3 votes
Reply#16 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
kpr37

Now the big thing seems to be hating America this is the article I wrote and sent in to newsvine in June

They say the only hallowed ground in New York city is beneath the shadows cast from the twin foot prints still vivid in memory. So in the Bright sun light were the shadows once fell I raise my voice, one among many in open defence of this Americas empire city.

America-

You are the new Jew.

Anti-semitison- A thought supporting the idea that the Jews control unseen conspiracies negatively affecting world events in pursuit of international Zoionistic goals. The Jew through his imperialistic attitude and racist habits has used capitalism to suck the very life blood and 92% of the German industrial production in to the pursuit of a communist agenda. This statement severed a dual purpose to inflame racial hatred of the Jews and to mobilize a physical response from the repressed populace. The Jew was often times portrayed in photos sucking the blood of Aryan females or in caricatures as lice on the map of Germany. A favorite of Hitler's was the Jew as a leach sucking enormous profits from the nation.

These are examples of familiar anti-Jewish attitudes and slogans expressed in the 1930s. Intelligent men have now acknowledged this as Nazi propaganda in search of a final solution. Now in this the year of our lord 2008 an undoubted time of hi-class and recreation most men are civilized but a younger generation are once again being conditioned. Remember the first step in the extermination of a people is to blame them for all that is wrong in the world.

America is a nation who exploits and kills civilians around the world daily. America with it's hyper-capitalism and imperialist intentions now consumes 87% of the worlds raw materials this racist policy enslaves native peoples to the corrupt greed endemic in monculturist civilizations. America invented the AIDs virus as means of genocide against people of color. These statements also have a dual purpose to inflame racial hatred toward Americans and to mobilize a physical responses from the repressed civilizations and peoples. In the mid-east posters of Uncle Sam with a hooked nose and fangs suck the blood of Palestinian children. In American universities snakes branded USA are seen to strangle the world. America is portrayed as a marauding multinational corporation eating the economies of poor countries like a cloud of locust.

These are examples of the new anti-Americanism- a thought supporting the idea that the Jews control America in to unseen conspiracies negatively affecting world events in pursuit of multinational corporate goals (ie Zionism) as proven in the protocols of the elders of Zion.

America, ME and YOU are the new JEW. Have you seen Schindler's list? The capital of the bizzaro worlds America, is new Jerusalem or as Jesse Jackson said more than a decade ago Hyme Town or Jew York. Some Germans were distressed to find as they were told to step in to line the answer to their protest [but I am not a Jew] SS guards would tell them that it was not for them to decide and could you please get your Jew ass back in line.

This inconvenient historic fact should be disconcerting to the human beings who populate Manhattan Island for it represents a once in a lifetime opportunity for a single suicide bomber with the proper suit case to surpass Hitler in a moment. "how small can A.Q.Khan of Pakistan with the help of North Korea and two billion dollars from Iran make a nuke This vast international city by the sea has now become in the eyes of Islamic terrorists and the radical left in our own society a legitimate target that is in fact guilty as charged. Any attack here would not be a final solution only a chilling new beginning. While I identify myself as a Bostonian in this context I love New York. This unfortunately does not change the fact that tens of millions of people around the world will view this genocide on our shores as a slap to the face of the Jew?

ME?

YOU?

in closing I would like to remind all those still reading this that at the time of his Crucifixion Jesus Christ was considered by many in simple terms as one less troublesome JEW

  • 6 votes
Reply#17 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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